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TonyPlush26
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Post Posted: 06/07/15 12:50 pm    Post subject: Buckram Separation Reply with quote
Not sure if this has been posted or not so forgive me if it has.

But, I've been using the oven trick to shrink a few of my hats that fit loosely, and as always (for me) it worked great. I have two caps that during their time in the oven, the buckram actually separated from the poly. You can't see it from the outside other than a little bit of a dent, but I know it's there and the dent bugs me. Is there any way to reattach the buckram from the inside?
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Post Posted: 06/07/15 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've had the same problem. Any advice would be great. I tried starching and a balloon, did nothing.
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Post Posted: 06/20/15 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Found a solution to my problem: the cap blocking machine. The combination of heat/steam and the hat being on a "mold" shaped it, I'm not sure if the two layers are actually fused together again but the dent(s) are gone.
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Post Posted: 06/21/15 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
TonyPlush26 wrote:
Found a solution to my problem: the cap blocking machine. The combination of heat/steam and the hat being on a "mold" shaped it, I'm not sure if the two layers are actually fused together again but the dent(s) are gone.


Figures. the closest one to me is three hours away. Oh, well.
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Post Posted: 09/01/16 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sorry for posting on an old thread, but I think this is the exact problem I'm starting to see develop on an early 90's wool Cubs cap. There is a place in one panel on the crown that looks dented from the outside, I think because the buckram directly behind it is either shriveled or detached.

Any way to fix heat / steam-wise without a nu-cap or cap blocking machine? (The nearest one to me I think would be 8-10 hours away...) I do need to attempt some further shrinking on the crown of this one, so we'll see if that doesn't do the trick in time, but for right now it's mildly annoying as it's staring to give the crown that "real crown" look where the middle is a point higher than the rest of the front two panels. Frustrating. If anyone has advice, it would be much appreciated.
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Post Posted: 09/01/16 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Another dumb question - is it possible to subtly stitch / sew the buckram back to the wool fabric where it has become detached without making things worse?
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Post Posted: 09/01/16 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've never done any stitching, but I have been successful ironing out some imperfections in wool hats.
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Post Posted: 10/26/17 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Some good news for those with a buckram separation issue but limited access to a NE store: re-cap and an iron can help if my experience is any indication.

What I did:
1 Steam the cap thoroughly
2 Put on re-cap and inflate to max; try to reduce the separation wrinkles as much as possible
3 While the cap is still on the re-cap, use a steam iron to flatten separation areas further
4 Leave on re-cap for 24 hours

Unfortunately in my case, I had a reason for working on this cap in the first place: this sucker naturally wants a Chino-style crown and it came back along with the re-sealed buckram. I'm hesitant to take a hairdryer to it since I'm not sure how secure the re-seal is. Oh well, at least it's in presentable condition now.

Photos below. First is from right after I initially worked on it a few months ago, others are after re-cap/ironing. The separation was on all sides previously btw, not just the one pictured.







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